Siemens Surpresso TK58001 - compact - Can not run service cycle

    • Siemens Surpresso TK58001 - compact - Can not run service cycle

      Hersteller: Siemens | Typ-/Modell: Surpresso TK58001 - compact | ca. Baujahr: 2011

      Hi,

      When everything was looking fine after my repair the machine wanted me to run the Service program.
      Something is wrong and it sounds like a valve is not opening. The DV I replaced did not look like the original DV can this be the issue?

      The original DV looked

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      And the replacement DV looks like this.



      Below is a like to a video I made that sounds/shows the error.


      Video of error

      Any insight is welcome!

      Mechanische Kentnisse vorhanden: JA | Elektrische Kentnisse vorhanden: JA | Messgerät vorhanden: JA
    • I took another photo of the new valve because of
      an other spare-parts-shop. We have here our
      own shop.

      Yes its ok - the old valve looks like picture 1 and
      the new like picture 2. If assembled correctly there
      ist no problem with the new valve:
      Einbauposition neues Drainageventil Bosch/Siemens/Nivona

      The problem that no water ist flowing isn´t caused
      by the drainage-valve, because an open DV let
      the water straight throug the black box in the tray,
      and when its closed the water flows to the brewing-
      unit. There ist no way to block the waterflow.

      BS
      Immer logisch und Schritt für Schritt vorgehen. Blinder Aktionismus kostet Zeit und Geld.
      Küche: Jura GIGA 5 Pianoblack-Chrom Bj: 2012
      Büro: [sJura GIGA X3 ALU Bj: 2014
    • Hi,

      Ok.. So what is making it impossible to run the service cycle?
      Any idea?

      It was working before I changed the DV and changed the gaskets in the Brewing Unit.

      Other than doing that I have not changed anything in the machine.

      It sounds like a valve is not opening. But I don’t know where to start looking.

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    • Hello,

      schizo schrieb:

      Ok.. So what is making it impossible to run the service cycle?
      Any idea?
      sorry - no idea too - except a blockade in the fluid-system...

      schizo schrieb:

      It was working before I changed the DV and changed the gaskets in the Brewing Unit.
      Other than doing that I have not changed anything in the machine.
      then you made a mistake by assembling the parts - only you can find the problem

      schizo schrieb:

      It sounds like a valve is not opening. But I don’t know where to start looking.
      indeed - perhaps a problem of blockade through calk somewhere in the machine
      or something by the crema-valve in the brewing untit

      BS
      Immer logisch und Schritt für Schritt vorgehen. Blinder Aktionismus kostet Zeit und Geld.
      Küche: Jura GIGA 5 Pianoblack-Chrom Bj: 2012
      Büro: [sJura GIGA X3 ALU Bj: 2014
    • Hi,

      Many thanks for your quick answers and suggestions.

      Since making coffee works fine and it's only running the service programme that is not working I think it's some kind of backwash that is not working.

      I guess I will have to take apart the machine again and check all hoses.
      But if I knew where to start looking it would be great.
    • My English isn´t good enough to understand
      whats the meening of "backwash". Or better:
      the translation I got, makes no real sense.

      BS
      Immer logisch und Schritt für Schritt vorgehen. Blinder Aktionismus kostet Zeit und Geld.
      Küche: Jura GIGA 5 Pianoblack-Chrom Bj: 2012
      Büro: [sJura GIGA X3 ALU Bj: 2014
    • If the Problem ist only running the service programm
      an eletronic default could be the reason. And therefore
      I know only one solution: Changing the electronic or
      "living with the problem".

      BS
      Immer logisch und Schritt für Schritt vorgehen. Blinder Aktionismus kostet Zeit und Geld.
      Küche: Jura GIGA 5 Pianoblack-Chrom Bj: 2012
      Büro: [sJura GIGA X3 ALU Bj: 2014
    • In the manual is exaclty discribed what to do if the service
      programm was interrupted. You find this in the section of
      the service programm nearly to the end.
      In the german version of the BDA its on page 10.

      If this doesn´t work you have to change the electronics.
      Perhaps with a salvage of a defective ebay-TK58001.

      BS
      Immer logisch und Schritt für Schritt vorgehen. Blinder Aktionismus kostet Zeit und Geld.
      Küche: Jura GIGA 5 Pianoblack-Chrom Bj: 2012
      Büro: [sJura GIGA X3 ALU Bj: 2014
    • I had two maschines, with the same Problem. The Atmel Controller at the power board has damaged. So you need a new power board, there is no other option, to fix this Problem. Take a look at eBay and find a used maschine, the maxium of cost should be 60-70€ with shipping. Only a new power board will cost 150€ or so, but i think this maschine is not longer supported.
      Wer mich unbedingt privat kontaktieren möchte:
      Tobias.L-Komtra_Forum@directbox.com
      Allgemeine Fragen ins Forum, ich bin kein persönlicher Seelsorger, für Kaffeevollautomaten.
    • Took apart the machine yesterday evening and fiddled with all the cables.

      After starting it up it was still the same problem.

      But this morning it all of a sudden started working. Not sure if there was indeed something blocking or some cable not seated properly.
      But now it seems to be working again. Not sure I dare to start the Service cycle again though.

      Again, many thanks for the help and assistance from this Forum!
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